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As a personal note, I find it absolutely disgusting that men who once wore the uniform would engage in outright lies against others for their own personal gain. Gene Simes calls himself a "former" Marine. He's got that right--no real Marine would act with such dishonor.
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Former Marine is right - in the same category as Jack Murtha.
These two men have used the forum of their radio show to slander good people and intentionally LIE about GOE. And they're afraid of the truth. I am beyond furious. They cut me off repeatedly when I called into the radio show, and they hung up on me twice. They are afraid of THE TRUTH. Cowards. Despicable liars. Crooks. They LIE when they claim that GOE has a new initiative to "attack" disabled veterans. They are trying to destroy GOE and that is reprehensible. There are not words descriptive enough to describe how vile they are. Did I mention they are COWARDS? Afraid of a 'lil ole Redhead. Two of 'em against 'lil ole me, and they cut and run. Pathetic, puling excuses for men. To:
They. are. vermin.
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I fully support the GOE no matter what anyone else says! I know what our mission is and I plan to keep it alive in Ohio!
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Sure they're not Dimmocrats in disguise? Sorry you guys are going through this. I am staying put as I believe in the purity of this group and its mission. Don't let the a$$holes get to you, please!!
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People, I am *so* sorry you were subjected to such disregard and disrespect. Don't let the b@st@rds get you down. And to paraphrase Charlie Daniels, the Bible says that when rotten people curse you (or speak false evil of you), you get a blessing for it-- so don't fear if it keeps coming. Keep your chins up and your courage strong.
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I knew Jere, and his wife, many years ago---he was horridly wounded in Nam, and lucky to be alive. I know that he will remember me, as a two tour Nam Vet CPT in Army Nurse Corps. He is an angry man. He respected me then, perhaps he will now. Please send me his address, phone #, and I will try. I believe in GOE, and what it is trying to accomplish. Is Jere still in Georgia? Thanks, Diana
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Anytime success is achieved, there will be those slime at the bottom of the pit who will try to drag down those who succeed. Its unfortunate that GOE is now a target in their sites, whatever their agenda... but the thing is, we are EAGLES, and we can soar above this, just like we soared above the media ignoring us - we still got the message out to the troops, Just like we soared above the moonbats - scared away jihad jane and the other 94,999 rats who were supposed to show up. We have a mission to accomplish, and Capt Bailey and the rest of the Eagles, and our troops have my unconditional support. We can Soar! We can make a difference!
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I sent this to Jere's address. Might be to big for an entry. If so, I appologize.
Dear Jere & Gene, I am a patriotic citizen who volunteers in support of our troops. I support veterans’ issues; my dad is a Vietnam Vet. I'm a 30 year old, former IT professional turned college student. I read every report I can about what are men and women are doing in the services, and I support them as much as humanly possible. I am an Eagle. I had the chance to go to GOE 1 in March. I have never felt more American than when I was standing shoulder to shoulder with thousands of veterans and their supporters next to the Lincoln Memorial. On that day I saw the best that America has to offer. I felt that for the first time, I had really exercised my Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech. This country is great because we have people who are willing to stand up and serve. They serve in protection of our values and our freedoms, and I will thank as many of them as I can for their service to this blessed country of ours. I would ask you both as gentlemen to not disparage the Gathering of Eagles any longer. For the first time we have an organization of both veterans and their supporters, coming together to make sure that no soldier will ever have to endure what our returning soldiers from Vietnam suffered through. By that I mean not being honored. Upon my father's return from his tour, the airline actually stopped the plane on the tarmac so that my dad and a fellow solider could change out of their uniforms into civilian clothes. People were waiting in the airport to spit on any soldier that they encountered. As long as I have breath in me, no soldier will ever have to take his uniform off in order to pass unaccousted through a public place. Today, thanks to a few men and women who helped pull GOE together, we have an amazing opportunity. We have the chance to counter the left's message of surrender and dishonor. We have the chance to stand up united and shout, "We are Americans, we love this country, we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it any more!" I would ask both you guys to please take a step back from your current disagreement with GOE. We're all on the same side here. Sincerely, Matthew Krause Columbus, GA www.godblessfortbenning.com To:
Stand your ground,.. do not let this attack weaken the GOE,..have a outside accounting for any disputed funds ,..and have the accounts verified..The GOE is to important to our troops to let a few people..with access to a radio platform ,..distroy it,. for {Gain}, Sir,.. this is a old game,.. its being played out to silance anyone who is seen as a threat... What can we expect?.. after the turn out at GOE 1... The anti- war ,Anti-troop groups are mad as hell,.. GOE exposed the weak link in there action plan, all 30,000 of us...I see great men do great thing,.. but small people will allways stand on the sidelines,and sling mud to distract,..Audit the accounts in question,.. publish the facts.. send them a copy,.. by way of your lawyer,.. and take it from there...If they continue to attact,.. with no evidance,.. its still called slander in civil court..Sounds like a hijack attempt in progress,..Fight the good fight, and GOE members will support you.
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Vermont stands behind GoE, Capt. Baily, Kit, Heidi and the Gathering of Eagles mission statement. Lies and slander will weed out those involved for personal gain and leave behind a stronger core to build on. I must confess, I had no idea what Semper Fi meant, so I googled it....it's appropriate here!
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I do not believe there is anyway for people to go after vets and there benefits from the VA if there real Vets. I do not understand waht these guys are trying to but destroy an organization that will do a lot of good. I suggest you follow the advice of CW3 Samek have an outside audit done and silence any false acusations by these haters. Some people simply like to destroy. God Bless the Eagles and lets keep it rolling.
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After involvement in both VFW and VVA for a good number of years, it has been my sad experience to have dealt with more than one individual like these gentlemen. Unfortunately, some folks seem to see only what they want to see. Enthusiasm sometimes turns to a single minded obsession that does not allow for realization that not all see things the same way. The goals of The Gathering of Eagles are clearly stated. They limit us to some very specific functions. The "Old Boys" organizations are very adept at fighting the VA battles. Lets let them do what they do well. We have a big enough battle to fight for our troops right now. We do not need to be distracted by angry people with agendas that are different from ours. EAGLES UP Doc Leeds
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I was at GOE 1 and I will continue to go to as many GOE functions that I can. Let's keep the chins up and let's do what we do best.
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The VA health care system,.. as well as the active duty health care of wounded troops,..are under wide spread attack,.. for gaps in there mission statement,..The VFW,..and other disabled Vet groups,..are allways fighting the good fight,.. for any vet who has been given the short end of the stick, I hope the GOE members will smell the strange smell of a political back room power play,.. the use straw men,.. to fight anyone who may effect future funding,.. or,.. God forbid,.. having to answer for any failure to do the job they are paid to do,..and hideing mistakes,..in file cabinets,.. guarded by lawyers,.who are also paid by the public. Just a thought, What say you fellow Eagles?...When Eagles are silent,.. the parrott's will swawk,.. Winston C.,.. another great Eagle.
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One can only suppose what their motives are, but they are missing the point of The Gathering of Eagles.
In large numbers our myriad voices are heard louder then the chants of a few. As An Eagle, I want my concerns to be heard and more importantly to be listened to. That will not happen if there is a division in the ranks, those that can ignore us when we are few will do so, those that can't ignore us when we are many will be forced to listen. In reality, that is the real reason to be an Eagle, so that we are listened to that our message is heard and understood, and that our one voice says what we need it to say. By attacking what has to be the first great assembly of veterans with a common purpose in this century, they have distanced themselves from their goals. They should know better. To:
AmericanProtest.net supports the Gathering of Eagles.
As someone who often studies and debates political issues based on facts, I noticed two points which stand out immediately to discredit the two accusers, Gene Simes and Jere Beery. 1. Gathering of Eagles has obviously not had time to properly finish accounting to donate any excess funds. Had they already donated funds, I would have felt they acted too soon. I'm glad they have good accountants and make mature financial decisions. 2. There is no evidence of any "shakedown" by GOE. Taking a comment out of context from a personal email is not evidence, and claiming it is reveals the dishonesty of the accusers. On a personal note, I have been a FReeper since 1998, and I trust Kristinn Taylor all the way. The only questioning of any event where he is a leader should be in the context of "perhaps an accounting mistake was made, may I help in some way?" with the respect due someone who volunteers to help his country and the troops in so many ways. Shrill accusations, hanging up on refuters calling in to the talk show and refusing to pay attention to facts speaks volumes to me. God bless the Gathering of Eagles! To:
I have always hated even more the ones who "shoot down the trench" But there is a little-bitty mind out there that rather than "do" something constructive, must seek their esteem in destroying someone else. If you don't like what we are doing, go somewhere else and leave us alone. It's the same evil mind of communism. Hopefully there is a special place in HELL for those who are of such a mindset. Co-Chaplain GoE
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You all will remember I said before we gathered in DC that those we have sworn to fight will do their evil best to put us down. These two seem to have joined the enemy. Makes one wonder were THEIR money comes from?
We have our mission and NOTHING will deter us from that mission. My Fellow Grunts, remember the radio call "Charlie Mike!" For our civilan supporters, that means, "Continue Mission." Eagles Up Blessings To All Rev Ernie (Hawk) Tucker Co-Chaplain GOE To:
Well I don't know the 2 people who are complaining, but I have met the GOE folks. We rode our bikes up from Lower Al. for GOE I and we will ride up for GOE II. Remember HANG TOUGH!
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Come on!! Some people just hate the truth. Way to go Redhead for calling in to the show again and again even when hung up on. Keep up the good work.
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Jere Beery told me all I need to know with his first (and perhaps only) belligerent, sophomoric post on this forum. Before all this nonsense blew out of control. If he wants to support veterans, God bless him and more power to him. I fail to see how attacking us is accomplishing his supposed goal.
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Its been an easy call to make as to the caliber of the character of the individuals involved. EAGLES UP and lets get the job done. The naysayers are unworthy of our time or consideration. Florida EAGLES and the "Gang" are here to stay.
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We all have had our angry times regarding injuries and the war in general. The difference that most vets have with the few (very angry) is that we got on with our lives and did not allow these issues to rule our lives. A strong individual will rise above and conquer. Seek out GOD (as we did in troubled times in the Nam) and pray with conviction and he will heal.
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I don't know any of the personalities named in this post. All I know is that the mission of the Gathering of Eagles and affiliated groups IS a worthy cause.
If we allow individuals who cannot identify with the mission OR who may have ulterior motives for participating --- our mission loses focus. To publicize (polarize and politicize) the wranglings and dissent and/or ulterior motives of a few is exactly what those who oppose our mission WANT. To publicize these vents is a disservice to our troops, affiliates and the thousands who support this mission. I'm a "nobody" from the silent majority who posts about and promotes GOE II several times a day across the internet ----- I don't mind being in the shadows, but I resent like hades having our mission OVERshadowed by pettiness AND those with ulterior motives. We've got the "boots on the ground." Sounds as if someone needs a boot to the butt! To:
What a shame that you are having to go through something like this when your energies should be focused totally on our goal. I was at GoE I, and wild horses can't keep me from going to GoE II. I was in awe that someone was able to accomplish what the organizers did in such a short amount of time. I don't think anyone knew what to expect (and probably had no idea that there would be a second rally), but I trust the motives and judgment of the organizers. Hold onto the good feelings-- losing a few feathers won't deter the eagle.
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Redhead Infidel, please add Jim Webb, Senator from Virginia to your list of former Marines (Jack Murtha and Gene Simes). Sen. Webb's war against the President may succeed and result in victory by the terroist. GOE must continue their objective to support the Troops and their mission and ignore those like Jere Beery that would distract us.
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Folks, I'm a former Marine. As is any other Jarhead who served honorably. Murtha, Clayton Lonetree and Lee Harvey Oswald are EX-Marines, in my book. Jim Webb is a disgusting putz, but I wouldn't put him in that category.
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Clayton Lonetree? Someone knows their history. ;) And yes, I agree. My husband was also an MSG, and feels the same.
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Eagles Up! Apparently Jere has been getting some very horrible hate mail from our fellow members. That is something I thought was only a tactic of the left. Let's all grow up people. It's obvious that Captain Bailey hurt Jere & Gene's feelings by a comment that really shouldn't have been included in an email from our Chairman. In return, Jere & Gene fired back at us, and hurt our feelings. Each side needs to appologize so we can get back on track. It's one of the hardest things in the world to appologize to someone you've had a confrontation with. Let's not be so proud that we can't work this out. I've sent the same message to Jere in the hopes we take care of this. No, I'm not a peacenik hippie for suggesting this. Matt
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Hang in there folks. Grandma advised me, on many occasions; Never argue with politicians, fools, drunks or children. Or with Grandma - for different reasons of course. God bless the Gene Simes and Jere Beery for their service and sacrifice, both under arms and since that time. May they find all success in their mission to assist our veterans. However, some of us have been waiting a long time for an organization that is not politically connected and has no agenda other than supporting the American military members, that are at out on the sharp end. GOE is it. See you folks at UNC-Chapel Hill and anywhere else GOE might decide to make a stand. That's what we're here for.
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We met in the train leaving GOE 1 Myself and my 2 Brothers of the Second Brigade Motorcycle Club. Anyway, I went to thier website. Why don't you give them some of thier own medicine. "Vietnam combat disabled veteran Gene Simes is OFFE National Chairman, and President of Veterans For Veteran Connection, Inc., a registered non-profit 501-3C organization devoted to uniting this country’s former military personnel in issues of importance to them." Let's see his books and accounting practices. There website list problems about very specific veterans issues. Issues that cannot be "fixed" by a couple of letters to the President and a radio show. Let's use this as a lesson learned...... Don't voice your opinion in an email. It WILL come back to bite you. Stand Strong! DimDave - SBMC To:
Maybe we have stolen somebodies thunder!!!!
Two months ago one web page simply stated...... What: Gathering of Eagles When: March 17th, 2007 Assemble from 0700 and 1000. Where: The Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Wall, Washington D.C. Why: To stand "SILENT" guard over our nation's memorials, in honor of our fallen, and in solidarity with our armed forces in harm's way today. We worried about having enough patriots to cover that mission. We had NO media coverage to promote it, no billboards, no Goodyear Blimp!!!! Just a simple web site, with a forum, and sometimes confusing information (us vets are used to confusion, no big deal) Thanks to the founding fathers of GOE, and the likes of Kit and Heidi's hard work and devotion, we protected our memorials.... AND!!!! Put the leftist, anarchist, islamo fascist and all them other commie pinko screws on notice... "We are mad as hell and not going to take it any more" To:
I appreciate what you're saying, Matt. But the thing is, we don't owe anyone an apology. Anyone who knows me knows that I call a spade a spade. If someone accuses me of doing something and they know I didn't do it, that makes them a liar--and I don't mind calling them so.
My feelings aren't hurt at all. I'm simply not going to back down from someone who has so little integrity that they would literally go on the air and claim that I, or anyone else in GOE, have somehow engaged in misconduct. Apologizing means I did something wrong, and I haven't. Neither has Captain Bailey. I honestly believe that those of us who support the troops and their mission have done a great disservice to the truth by apologizing for what we believe or somehow giving ground by trying to be "nice." People like Jere Beery are not doing anything to help--they only hurt. The sooner these types of people (by that I mean liars, not disabled vets...just had to make that clear) are exposed, the sooner we purge them from our midst. It's time to separate the men from the boys, so to speak, and get on with the mission. If he can't hang with integrity, then he needs to fall out and let someone else get it done. To:
Clayton Lonetree? I was a MSG in Moscow.... He could have done MUCH better then the switch board operator... Moscow was absolutely my best tour
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I understand your point of view. You won't get any arguement from me. I appreciate everyting you and the rest of the team have done getting this thing off the ground. Matt To:
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I respect your opinion (although I disagree with it). However, there's an important piece missing from your timeline. The E-mail exchange between Larry Bailey and Jere Beery occurred on 4 and 7 Apr, respectively. Details here: http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=254 As you can see by Mr. Beery's 30 Mar post below, he already had a large chip on his shoulder. Jere Beery | jerebeery@aol.com As I said before, Mr. Beery strikes me as a complete putz. To:
You people are missing the point entirely. The question at hand is: Should the GOE be involved, or endorce 'veterans turning in' veterans?
" I can prove that Larry Bailey, Chuck and Mary Schantags turn veterans into the VAIG on a regular basis". He quit posting letters when they all failed to go his way.... and YES we continue to turn phonies and frauds and goldiggers into the VA IG and the FBI and law enforcement on a daily basis with a great team and huge support. Mary and Chuck Schantag P.O.W. Network www.pownetwork.org To:
 Mr Simes and Mr Beery are well known on AOL...they have started trouble with the POWNetwork and other sites who have unmasked wannabe's and embellishers. They have been warned by the U.S. Army Ranger Association, The NAM-POW's Inc, Red River Valley Fighter Pilots Association, Special Forces Association, the MOPH The Disabled American Veterans, that all of these organizations stood behind the POWNetwork and Mary and Chuck Schantag. GOE will not be rushed or browbeat by a pack of jackals...everything Simes and Beery and the Firebase Network touches turns to slime...the Firebase Network and operation J OFFE are no longer members or associated with Gathering Of Eagles, and when GOE gets around to making all of the expenditures from the donations public, they will get the information just like everyone else... we do not work on Beery and Simes time line we work on our time line. J OFFE received $10,000 from a private party within the last several months ...how much of that money was donated to the GOE? And what was done with that money that was donated to your piss ant organization? you have done nothing that I can see except to start trouble and try to get your agenda put above the agenda of the GOE. Beery and Simes claimed they would shut down the POWNetwork over 6 months ago.....it's still running strong and will be for years to come. Let it be known that Mr Simes and Mr Beery are both loose cannons and GOE has nothing to do with VA disability compensation for PTSD and other disabilities. Last time it was the POWNetwork they attacked and they got a good shellacking by the major organizations who backed the POWNetwork and the Schantags...Both Mr Simes and Beery need a long vacation... your very small organization carries no weight either on or off the Internet...to put it bluntly...you are nobodies trying to be some bodies and that is obvious by the great number of 6 followers that you had at the GOE1....wake up and smell the coffee ...things could and may get a lot worse. To:
If the GOE supports civilians tampering in health-related issues that do not concern them, and if the GOE supports government agents within their ranks, I really don't see the GOE accomplishing anything positive towards assisting those veterans that need help. Do you really think veterans will want to join a group that is going to scrunitize their VA disability rating? Let the VA do their own dirty work.
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I STRONGLY suggest that the GOE avoid ANY appearance of standing in judgement of fellow veterans. In a mere month, the GOE has gone from protecting our monuments, to endorcing the shake-down of veterans. I find it very strange that no one has called Capt. Bailey down for his vile comments about our veterans and the VA. Don Imas is facing lossing his job over a few ill thought out statements. Imas at least appoligized. It is VERY obious by the lack of critisum over Capt. Bailey's statements that many support his position.
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Lead,follow,or,get the Hell out of the way!. I say "bag um",and lets move on to the next order of business.The mission of GOE is to support the troops,my mind,and my heart,all point in the direction the GOE is marching, Lead On GOE!.
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I STRONGLY suggest that the GOE avoid ANY appearance of standing in judgement of fellow veterans. :-D Oh my goodness, you can't make this stuff up!! Physician, heal thyself! Dear Jere, please go away. To:
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Try again, please... Just what is your point? Chasing wannabes and phonies is an honorable endeavor, but it only is relevant in this context if it becomes a GoE function. So far it has not! If you are concerned that Larry Bailey is using his position with GoE as some sort of 'bully pulpit' please provide details. To:
GOE is the first group that I’ve seen that on the national stage stood up and showed America and our Soldiers in harms way that we do support them. Like many of you I was frustrated that once again Americans were going to sit by and watch another generation of our Vets gets discredited. Well thanks to the founders of GOE, that changed on March 17th. Our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan took notice as the GOE patriots stood up and in one voice confronted the radical elements of our society, the same elements that took the pot shots at our Viet Nam Vets while they served. This can never happen again. With all due respect for Mr. Beery and Mr. Simes and the good work they have done for Vets, I am absolutely flabbergasted that these two distinguished veterans would openly take a broadside at the GOE on the radio over what, hurt feelings? I would suggest that maybe they should step back and take a look at the big picture and realize that GOE is more important than their ego’s. Our Soldiers today need and deserve our support. As far as I’m concerned, nothing is going to stand in the way of supporting our troops. I don’t think a lot of us have the patience to deal with this nonsense and the fact its coming from other Vets.....Thank God for the GOE!!!!
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Here's an idea....Beery you and Simes go run your little firebase's and let the people who want to support the troops do that their way....just get out of the way ...you are fighting a losing battle...go do your thing and the GOE will do their thing...without your help or suggestions....sound good??? I hope so because the GOE will still be here just like the POWNetwork is still here that you were "Going to shut down" now please go away and do your thing and let us do ours! byeeeeeeeeee To:
A little reminder of the two other Jere Beery posts I could find. Getting past his pimping of his own organization, it would seem he held a fairly high opinion of GOE just a month ago. Wouldn't you all agree? -----------
Jere Beery | jerebeery@aol.com | Welcome Home from the Firebase Network Arrived home from the Gathering of Eagles Sunday around 4:30 PM. almost a 12 hour drive. Veterans did this country proud. We out numbered Sheehans group 3 or 4 to 1. The 30,000 estimate is on the low side. I handed out nearly 300 copies of the www.offe2008.org resolution calling for mandatory funding of Veterans health care. The differences between the 2 groups was astounding, you won’t here about in the lame-stream news. Veterans, thousands of American Flags, protestors, maybe a dozen. Veterans, area policed thrash in proper place, protestors, thrash all over gathering site as well as route to and from the Pentagon. Veterans, USA USA USA, protestors,cut and run, impeach Bush, surrender to Jihad etc etc etc. The only place you will get coverage of this great event is on the blogs. The lame-stream had all thier cameras covering the protestors. Below is a letter a friend of mine sent to ABC channel 13 in Toledo Ohio. When will the media wake up?? Semper Fi Rick Townsend Director, Firebase Network letter follow... Mar 19, 8:25 PM
Jere Beery | jerebeery@aol.com | OFFE After Action Report Gathering of Eagles (GOE) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 19, 2007 If you attended the Gathering of Eagles rally in Washington, DC this past weekend, you might have recieved an envelope marked EXPRESS LETTER with a beautiful Eagle head on the front. Inside each packet was Operation Firing For Effect’s (OFFE) Resolution calling for full mandatory funding of veteran’s health care and services. To date, our Resolution has been adopted and passed by several U.S. northeast cities and townships, including the City of Chicago, Illinois and over 500,000 labor union members in New York State. Visit this link to view signed Resolutions http://offe2008.org/public html/resolution.htm In addition to supporting GOE’s mission, our objective was to handout 2,000 of these Express envelopes. Many of the envelopes contained the OFFE Veteran’s Medical Alert CD. Although OFFE’s message of future veteran’s healthcare was not a primary message of the GOE rally, OFFE was warmly included in the rally program and everyone there was very supportive of our efforts. Now, let’s see how many signed Resolutions we receive back. All in all, the GOE rally was a tremendous success and Operation Firing for Effect congratulates the organizers of the event, and we also commend them for their hard work. Hopefully, this rally wasn’t merely a one time knee-jerk reaction and is the beginning of a much bigger push on issues of importance to our former military personnel and their families. If we are to influence the 2008 national elections, we must unite our efforts into one major voice. The next time we rally, let’s shoot for 100,000 attendees. The future treatment of our veterans is in the balance. A special thank you to Col. Harry Riley for his leadership and inspiration, and a very special thank you to; Jere Beery, Rick Townsend, John Evans, Calvin Murphy, and Phu Nguyen for their continued loyalty and service during the Washington, DC event. Sincere accolades to Viper’s Vietnam Veterans Web page for the continuous GOE updates and information. OFFE looks forward to working with these Great Americans again in the very near future. OFFE National Chairman Gene D. Simes OPERATIONFFE2008@rochester.rr.com PS The national news media should hang their collective heads in shame for not covering GOE. Mar 19, 8:23 PM ---------- I would like to thank Coop for his tremendous work in posting this message. :-D To:
Coop, I must appologize to you and rest of the Eagles. I thought it was simply a matter of a comment made in an email. I didn't realize I was missing a part of the picture. I guess I'll have to do more homework next time before I post.
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Thank you, Matt, but there's no need for you to apologize. We're all learning here.
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Great postings Coop!
To Jere who I have never met, and will probably never meet, good luck in accomplishing your mission. Our mission is clear, definitive, and a mission that needs to be supported. If we succeed in reaching a large segment of this country through positive gatherings and raise the publics awareness and concern for them, we will have greatly assisted you in accomplishing yours. When a large enough segment of the public demands support for troops and veterans, that is what will get full funding for the VA. We, our group, your group, and every veterans group out there should be joined at the hip in public appearances and forums (the internet and each others websites) until every American sees the need to demand better for our soldiers and veterans. It also helps to be joined at the hip in private beacuse we are close enough to kick each other in the A$$ if we disagree. I support this mission, I will support the other members of GOE whenever and wherever I can and I am old enough and veteran enough to make up my own mind. Yu have stated your opinions and objections to Larry Bailey and the GOE enough for everyone to read, hear about, consider, and decide for themselves whether or not they will continue to support GOE. If we choose to continue please be man enough not to go away mad, just go away! To:
I'm sorry to see this discord, especially right on the heels of such a successful venture as GOE I. I'm very pleased, however, to see the "stick with the mission" response. Let's get past this nonsense quickly, because we've got much more important stuff to deal with than this.
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I consider this attack on the eagles to be completely and totally rediculous. I am an eagle, Vietman veteran, and an American, I support the eagles, the troops, and America. EAGLES UP! Dennis
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I support the current leadership of Gathering of Eagles (Thank You Capt. Bailey, Kit and Heidi and all others that are pulling together). I ignore those that try to get me off track.
Go look at the Mission statements. That is what the group is about. I am a Vet wife and I consider this a Battle of Distraction from the Main Purpose of GOE- Make sure our troops are supported in their Mission. I consider all those (the Fire base group and any others) that are getting off track as a slap in the face of My Veteran and If I see you around I probably will return the same. Go find another Blog if you don't like this mission and don't let the screen door hit your backend. To:
MAY WE GET BACK TO OUR MISSION NOW?
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MAY WE GET BACK TO OUR MISSION NOW? We never left our mission. Why are you yelling? To:
I HOPE THAT jere berry & gene simes, UNDERSTAND THAT 30,000 DIDN'T COME FOR THEM,,,,"THIS TIME" ...."if you can't stand behind us.....STAND IN FRONT OF US" GoE STICK TO THE MISSION STATEMENT....WE ARE WITH YOU. 1NAVY ,1 MARINE... BELIZE, CEN AM.......
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MAY WE GET BACK TO OUR MISSION NOW?
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To ALL the heroes who brought this great organization to a reality: A hearty EAGLES UP! and TYVVM!!! I think the history and baseless accusations (plus their refusal to allow ANY view, but their own) speak volumes, about our detracters! I think, as one (of two) of the state coordinators for Michigan; I speak for ALL Michigan Eagles that we stand firmly and PROUDLY behind our National Leaders!!! Charlie Mike and be assured you are supported and GREATLY appreciated!!! Eagles Up! Radar
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Ladies & Gentlemen, May we please get on with it. Screw those dumb asses Do you know that everytime you acknowledge something you make it stronger. Ignore these liberal turkeys, they ain't worth the powder it would take to blow them to hell.
This little message goes out to mr. jere berry & gene simes -------Screw you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =:-) To:
Congratulations! Already the "Eagles" have people attempting to stop the movement. You can tell by the lies and distortions just how afraid the "other side" is of the efforts and probable success of the GOE.If any movemnet appears to be gaining momentum,the best time to stop it is in ther very begining. Look for more of the same and keep your guard up. Again Congratulationd!
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Where did the statement "your comment is awaiting moderation" come from? It did not come from me! Please excuse the typos.
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I have been lurking and watching this develop ... and it is obvious that this is a ploy by the Left who have infiltrated the GOE with the preplanned objective to start a turf war and cause dissension within our ranks.
Don't fall for it. I'd be willing to bet it is a plan hatched and directed from within the putrid bowels of A.N.S.W.E.R.. These two appear to be their recently spawned (And, bought and paid for) useful idiots. They recently (Shortly before the GOE Rally in DC), boosted of a $10,000 "donation" to their organization from a ' private benefactor' Who? George Soros??? Cindy Sheehan'??? Sean Penn?? Dixie Chicks??? John Kerry??? One could only guess? Strange timing indeed though, don't you think? I say enough time and useless energy has been wasted on addressing these two self-promoters and Leftist agent's provocateur's whom so proudly display as supporters a Democrat Senator --Frank Lautenberg, and a Democrat Governor from Oregon, on their website. Paid liberal operatives? Hidden Agenda? Odd, that someone who accuses the GOE as being "political", which in it's mission statement specifically eschews any political affiliation and has turned down offers by politicians for public support, would cast stones when they so odorously have climbed in bed with a few themselves. No? We'll not so odd, when you consider the potential payday ... It would appear, from the emailing's, posts here, and the disastrously heavily handed and censored "radio show" in which the guests reported being treated with so much disrespect, that their one and only mission is to sabotage the wonderful efforts and progress of the GOE and it's members.. My suggestion would be to ban them from posting anymore of their A.N.S.W.E.R. propaganda on the GOE (And send them packing back to The Daily Kos and The Democratic Underground where they came from.) and lock the thread. Let's return on to some constructive discussions on mission, meetings, rally's, logistics, and redoubling our efforts to increase turnout and garner media coverage in our primary mission -- which is to support, uplift, motivate, and nurture the military (past, present, and future.) and help them in every way possible, while on the battlefield and upon their return. And, to let them know that "We have their back" and are protecting their honor until they get back home to protect it themselves, along with all of us. InfantryMarine To:
Nobody said it was going to be easy any they were right. Any time you take on something of this importance and magnitude ( GOE ), you are, unfortunately, going to take fire from all directions. We must remember that our real enemy is the far left hate America mob, just as our enemy in the RVN were the NVA and VC. These folks like Jere are like the heat, leeches," wait-a-minute " vines, snakes, centipedes, etc. that we endured. Pains in the butt? Yes, but not why we are here. Lets stay focused on our mission for the sake of our country and our troops. All of the GOE leadership have my full support. EAGLES UP!!!
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More of Jere Beery's lies and delusions:
LIE #3: GOE supports civilians tampering in health-related issues LIE #4: GOE supports government agents within their ranks LIE #5: GOE is going to scrutinize veterans' VA disability rating LIE #6: GOE has any affiliation with the VA whatsoever - much less any mandate to do their "dirty work" LIE #7: GOE stands in judgment of fellow veterans LIE #8: GOE endorses the "shake-down" of veterans All of the above are slanderous lies that have been plucked from the obvious chaos in Beery's mind. They stand as evidence of his complete disconnect from reality. Your lying is a pathology - you need professional help, Beery. I doubt the VA will cover it, though. So I guess that means you'll wander around in your delusions, making life miserable for decent people, a pariah among honorable veterans, for quite some time to come. Sad. To:
Hmmmm...Interesting theory, InfantryMarine. Add to that Coop's finds on Beery's previous statements and an amateurly forged email I received from Beery this morning, and you've made a pretty strong case.
We had to issue this response, because many of you are unfortunate to have had your emails captured for Beery and Simes' distribution list and have been spammed with his lies for two weeks now. There was no point in pretending the brou-ha-ha wasn't going on. We addressed it and now we're drivin' on. You are all 100 correct - on with the Mission. We have a lot going on, there's a lot of irons in the fire. More than enough to keep us busy for months to come! It's a very exciting time. So EAGLES UP! To:
Guess what? I don't even know who these guys are! Never heard of them! I am not surprised that GOE is being attacked. The left could not let us grow without some meddling. Lets get on with the business of supporting our troops yeah?
FYI, I am traveling through "small town" Mississippi and met a Veitnam Vet. HE has heard of GOE. He lives in the middle of nowhere!! GOE is getting out there and gaining momentum. Thank God for that and for the fine folks who are making this happen! To:
Fellow Eagles, GOD BLESS YOU ALL! I am a former combat Marine with the Purple Heart from wounds recieved during the Tet Offensive 1968, up around Khe-Sanh. I love the Marine Corps! However, even in the Marine Corps you can have traitor posers! I knew of one in Northern I Corps, who was killed by his own men! Evil will always show itself when times are bad. We will overcome and defeat the enemy. Mr. Berry, you do not realize who you are --cking with!!!!!!! Your day of reckoning will come!!!!!!!
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LOL, shucks I live in a small city in KY and I have heard of GoE. As have most all the Vets I know, and I have never heard of those two before this either. So I will stick around and lurk for a while longer. EAGLES UP!
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Q: Has anyone ever seen a DD214 on berry & simes, then checked them out with St Louis?
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Confused is Jere Berry a new ice cream on the market. Or could you marines imagine going thru boot camp with a guy named Jere Berry. The DI.S Would have a bunch of fun. Next time i eat some bad ice cream i will name it jere berry.
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Screw them (Beery & Simes)! Let us get on with our business. Please everyone, end this now!! Don't give them the satisfaction. WC
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Now I understand what is going on I did not before. I have been pushing GOE to all my friends and business people I know. I was concerned about this. I now remember reading Mr. Berry’s post when he made it about Veterans issues in regard to GOE and I thought at the time that it sounded antagonistic and this not what GOE is about what is his problem. It is more than obvious that Mr. Berry has an agenda and had a different goal from the very start. His actions say all any Vet needs to know he is willing to destroy GOE something that would help get our message of support out for the troops because it does not conform to what he thinks it should be. He has said in his post that he was using GOE to put out word for his own issues at the first meeting and because GOE will not adopt his issues he is in attack mode. Mr. Berry should reconsider his horrid conduct and leave this organization alone it has great work to do and his efforts will gain him nothing but the condemnation of his fellow Veterans. I feel better now God bless the Eagles. Eagles UP. Jack Hamilton
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Well, I've read all the posts thus far and I figure that GOE has three choices:
A) Hire an attorney and sue Simes and Berry for slander and defamation of character. They've publicly put out enough evidence to make the GOE "gathering of evidence" (sorry but I couldn't resist the play on acronym) easy enough. B) Remain focused and drive on. C) Do all of A and B. I think that choosing B makes the most sense. Why waste energy and slow the momentum of GOE on a couple of guys who clearly are personally miffed that their agenda will not be embraced and adopted wholeheartedly by GOE? In my opinion, that's what this tempest in a teapot is really all about. GOE has the numbers (in membership) that the two miffed guys envy. They want a cut of the action and if they can't get it, they'll try to destroy GOE by slandering the organization and its leadership. They remind me of two spoiled brats. I would like to remind the two miffed guys that the GOE organization isn't your football. Consequently, threatening to take the football and go home if the rest of the players don't adopt your rules is ...well...laughable. Drive on, Eagles and ignore the white noise. EAGLES UP! To:
1st,let me tell Beery & Simes thier accusations of anyone trying to involve themselves in the process of the VA granting or denying benefits is PURE BULLSHIT.I worked for the VA some years ago and influnces outside of the system are only allowed if they are supporting documents that support the claim,ie. doctors statements,statements from fellow veterans that served with the veteran,and military documents.THE VA DOES NOT ACCEPT ANY OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE OR REPORTS FROM ANYONE THAT IS TRYING TO INTRODUCE NEGATIVE INFORMATION IN INDIVIDUAL CASE DECISIONS.Beery & Simes want an accounting from GOE,WHO IN THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE? Even the IRS gives you a year.Lets see 3/17 - 4/6 or 7 for a full accounting.Also it seems that Beery was there on the 17th to advertize his personal agenda,not to GUARD & SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.The VA is not perfect but after going there the past 30+ years,i can tell you there have been huge improvements (especially since Jesse Brown ran the VA)he made many improvements that still effects todays VA.Beery appears as one of those that thinks if he talks louder than those around him, he will get the most attention "WRONG" Is the system perfect? NO,but attacking other veteran groups will not help.As for non-veterans getting involved,tell my wife of 36 years she has no say in the matter and she'll be on you like lightining & THUNDER.I could go on & on but i have 30+ years dealing with the VA,on both sides of the coin and i'll match wits and facts with either one of these Assholes any day of the week.LEAD,FOLLOW OR GET THE F--K OUT OF THE WAY.The GOE will outlast and bury these other small groups,and it will do this because it has no personal agenda or specific inclusion.JUST SUPPORT OUR TROOPS OUR MONUMENTS AND THE IDEAL OF STANDING TOGETHER AGAINST THE fondas and shehanns and all the othe moonbats.Beery & Simes !! GET YOUR NOSE OUT OF OUR ASS AND WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN AGENDA.CPT.Bailey,tell them to kiss your ass,they are both anti-GOE,therefore anti-unity in defending our troops.
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i actually feel sorry for jere and gene - they have missed the spirit of goe. the goe is not just about the "leadership" - it is about the thousands of us across the country who heard the call to gather, be it in washington dc or in new hampshire or in north carolina, to show support and love for our military and to beat back the hordes of moonbats!! i am very involved with a few other groups in nj that are working to confront illegal immigration and the islamofascist threat - i speak often about the goe at those rallies and meetings, and many people have already heard of us and they are interested in what we are doing.
goe is inspirational EAGLES UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To:
In response to this letter which exemplifies what the Soviet Union once called a "press" in which a pre-existing manifest of the press is driven into all that opposes that manifest I assure you, I am STANDING. We began a Troops Support Event In Michigan in 2002 and have done much similar work in order to stem the countering efforts of the press, which loves to "foolify" any and all Troop Support efforts and the people who act in that behalf. This will not be the first time the libzards come at you and it will not be the last time they act to villify you. Rest quiet and stoically still and ALWAYS stand down in the face of that enemy. Your actions will make the final accounting. The fewer the words...the better. Truly Daniel J. Doyle
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