Why Do We Fight?
Posted On: July 5, 2007 at 1:40 AM By: Longhunter
Declaration of IndependenceRobert Spencer in post at JihadWatch.org answers the above question. He does this by contrasting our view of human rights with those of the jihadis. His short comparison leaves no doubt as to the fate of the rights and freedoms we hold dear if the United States was forced to bow to Islamic law or Shari . All the talk about the causes of jihad only serve to distract us from the ideology behind the acts of terror and the ultimate goal of jihad. That goal is nothing less than the subjugation of the entire world under Islamic law. Mr. Spencer writes: 1. Equality of rights under the law:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." — Declaration of Independence
"Thus if a Muslim commits adultery his punishment is 100 lashes, the shaving of his head, and one year of banishment. But if the man is not a Muslim and commits adultery with a Muslim woman his penalty is execution...Similarly if a Muslim deliberately murders another Muslim he falls under the law of retaliation and must by law be put to death by the next of kin. But if a non-Muslim who dies at the hand of a Muslim has by lifelong habit been a non-Muslim, the penalty of death is not valid. Instead the Muslim murderer must pay a fine and be punished with the lash....Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim... then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain...Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty and religion, he has committed sacrilege, in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed....Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them." — Sultanhussein Tabandeh, A Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, F. J. Goulding, translator, London, 1970.
2. Governments deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed:
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." — Declaration of Independence
Non-Muslims have "absolutely no right to seize the reins of power in any part of God’s earth nor to direct the collective affairs of human beings according to their own misconceived doctrines." If they do, "the believers would be under an obligation to do their utmost to dislodge them from political power and to make them live in subservience to the Islamic way of life." — Syed Abul Ala Maududi, founder of the Pakistani political party Jamaat-e-Islami
The post can be viewed at JihadWatch.org:What are we fighting for.

Never forget that our brave military is up against what Ayaan Hirsi Ali has called "the footsoldiers of tribal barbarism." Freedom go to hell


Posted on July 5, 2007 at 1:40 AM by Longhunter  

To: Longhunter
Longhunter....Thank you for this article.....For all nonbelievers this is why we cannot let up..we cannot waiver in our fight to maintain our Freedom....

The War against Islamic Jihad has only just begun but it has been brewing for centuries...Only now, with money and the internet have the extremists managed to escalate their war against all Infidels....They are commited to their cause and only fools will believe otherwise....

EaglesUUUP!!!

1 Posted On: July 5, 2007 at 9:08 PM By: MikeBSuffolk
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To: Longhunter
I'm Proud To Be An Infidel,,,,,,"EAGLES UP NOW"
2 Posted On: July 6, 2007 at 1:22 AM By: JimDiehl_USN_65-71_Belize
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To: Longhunter
Sheikh Abdul-Majeed Subh, a prominent Azharite scholar, states the following:

Brother, the claim that you referred to in your question is groundless and has no backing in the Islamic Law. All people, Muslims and non-Muslims, are equal before the Shari ah with regard to penalties and punishments.

Scholars of Islam say that if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim unjustifiably, he has to be killed by the Islamic authority in charge of applying the penalties. The same is true also regarding killing a non-Muslim in retaliation if he kills a Muslim unjustifiably. This is according to the general instruction of the Qur’anic verse: (And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong doers.) (Al-Ma’idah 5: 45)

It goes without saying that the above ruling applies to all other crimes and penalties. For more information, the eminent Sheikh goes further on this issue in his "Good Argumentation with the Doubters of Islam , published by Dar Al-Manarah, Egypt: Since the 2nd century of Hijrah, or even before that time, some eminent Muslim jurists as Imam Abu Hanifah have held the view that any Muslim who kills a non-Muslim (a citizen of the Islamic State, under the category of Ahl Adh-Dimmah or non-Muslims having covenant with Muslims) should be killed in retaliation for his crime.

Since the age of Haroun Ar-Rashid, the judge of Baghdad, Abu Yusuf, has proclaimed the opinion that the Muslim who kills a non-Muslim should be killed.

The above legal verdict depends on the general nature in the following Qur’anic verses:

(O ye who believe! The law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder: the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman. But if any remission is made by the brother of the slain, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate him with handsome gratitude. This is a concession and a mercy from your Lord. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty.) (Al-Baqarah 2: 187)

(And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong doers.) (Al-Ma’idah 5: 45)

In the Sunnah, we read also the Hadith narrated by Al-Bayhaqi indicating that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), killed a Muslim in retaliation for his killing a non-Muslim who had concluded a peace-treaty with Muslims, saying, "I am (the Prophet of Allah) the most honored one who should keep his covenants.

Likewise, according to the Islamic jurisprudence, the Muslim’s hand should be cut off if he steals a non-Muslim’s property as long as the latter is not at war with Muslims. The prohibition of blood-shedding, of course, is greater than stealing others’ properties.

Accordingly, a man should be killed if he kills a woman or a child and a free man should be killed if he kills a slave one. In the light of the above Fatwa, it becomes crystal clear that the Shari ah knows no discrimination. All people living in the Islamic state are equal before the Law.

3 Posted On: July 6, 2007 at 1:45 AM By: < Former Member >
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To: Longhunter
This is an awesome post. Every word is so true and inspiring. All those who fail to "see" or chose "not" to see are really lying to themselves. No one can trust a true follower of Islam when they say they don't want to hurt us or conquer us.
4 Posted On: July 6, 2007 at 2:42 AM By: devildog6771
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To: Longhunter
Sameer,

Your entire post is ridiculous, and I don't really care what you SAY about "equal rights," anyone with a brain and a TV can see that women living under Islam have nothing even resembling rights, let alone equal ones.

Your propaganda isn't allowed here. Find somewhere else to post it.

5 Posted On: July 6, 2007 at 3:14 PM By: < Former Member >
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To: Longhunter
sister sameerie,,,,I bet you look good in a burka....You don't belong in America...go back to rock that you came out from under...And have a pork sandwitch, tell the BBQ place to put it on my tab.....Good Bye.....Proud to be an Infadel......"EAGLES UP NOW"
6 Posted On: July 6, 2007 at 3:59 PM By: JimDiehl_USN_65-71_Belize
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To: Longhunter
sameerie,your bullshit doe not fly here.The koran is a book full of hate,discrimination,punishment and the desire to rule the world.As far as i'm concerned, radical islam & the koran islam are one idealism.I'm sick and tired of hearing how regular followers of the koran denounce the radical islamic groups,yet they DO NOTHING TO STOP IT.The top imams are conviently quiet when the murderous scum kill and injure the innocent women and children and anyone that gets in their way.The jihad are barbaric cowards that hide behind scraves and attack innocent targets that they can hit and then crawl back into the rat holes they come from.islam must be eradicated before there can peace.Our Christian & the Jewish faiths are based on love & forgiveness,Islam is based on hate & desrtuction.Iraq is just a footstep in the War of the religious faiths.
7 Posted On: July 6, 2007 at 7:03 PM By: larrymddg
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To: Longhunter
Muhamud the child abuser, the kidknapper, the thief, has left the world a terrible legacy and millions of his misguided followers certain complete destruction. The Muhamadin has entered into a conflict with free men and women of The United States Of America. We win they lose!
8 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 12:04 AM By: Zeke
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To: Longhunter
Sameer, I have this quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson for you: "Don't say things. What you are stands over you the while, and thunders so that I cannot hear what you say to the contrary.

Sameer, you don't need to tell us infidels how peaceful and loving Islam is. You need to tell the likes of bin Laden, al Zawahiri, the Fort Dix Six, on and on ad nauseum, all your coreligionists who use the Koran, hadiths, Islamic history and tradition, the example of Mohammed, and the teachings of the four schools of Islamic jurislprudence to justify their violence. They are the ones you must convince, not us. We do not kill, maim, behead and enslave in the name of your moon god, allah and his despicable so-called prophet, Mohammed, (piss be upon him). Your dissimulation and obfuscation will no longer work, especially here.

For all the infidels here, everyone please google the phrase "taqiyya and tu-quoque" and arm yourself with knowledge as that is what Sameer is doing here.

9 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 11:30 AM By: Longhunter
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To: Longhunter
wow which part of the desert did they dig sameer out from ? you expect us to believe your self righteous islamic bullshit?? If you state what is true why weren't Zawahiri and his group of beheaders all beheaded by the true followers of islam?? Why didn't your Imams and Ayatollahs denounce 9-11 ??? I'll tell you why terrorists succeed because 99 of muslims are cowards they hide behind their burkas and man dresses and do nothing you all hide the terror cells in the middle east and in america giving them aid and comfort and safe houses providing false records and employment so they can gain visas to enter the country and your charities are all fronts for hezbollah, hamas, islamic jihad, al- queda and whatever else you call yourselves you hide your faces behind masks and scarves you attack women and children.You Sameer are full of shit, go somewhere else to spout your islamic crap
10 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 3:18 PM By: joe
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To: Longhunter
PS I forgot to say I was born a catholic and that is how they will carry me to my grave,I will never bow my head willingly or unwillingly to islam Looks like sameer and his islamic cronies have their work cut out for them. His post is just an attempt to make people feel sorry for islam and to justify what the moonbats say about the war, I for one don't buy it just wonder if anyone else does ?
11 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 3:21 PM By: joe
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To: Longhunter
Joe,,,,I'm Proud To Be An Infidel......sameerie, 35434- yankee oscar uniform sierra lima echo echo papa wiskry india tango hotel tango hotel echo papa india gulf sierra ..............
12 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 4:30 PM By: JimDiehl_USN_65-71_Belize
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To: Longhunter
54 sierra oscar romeo romeo yenkee papa india gulf sierra.......
13 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 4:35 PM By: JimDiehl_USN_65-71_Belize
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To: Longhunter
I BE A VERY PROUD INFIDEL, MARRIED TO A WONDERFUL NC INFIDEL,...FRUIT OF MY LOOMS, #1 SON IS A INFIDEL ADD IN TWO CATS & TWO DOGS, WHO ARE ALL INFIDELS & I WILL DIE A HAPPY INFIDEL. NEVER WILL ISLAM KISS MY HAND,... INTILL THEY CAN CUT IT OFF DEATH,.. BY HEAD SHOT,.. TO ALL ISLAMIC JIHAD TERRORIST.
14 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 7:03 PM By: George Samek
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To: Longhunter
George I am also a proud Infidel born one will die one end of story
15 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 7:26 PM By: joe
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To: Longhunter
Sameer

For The Islamic Jihod terrorist Against The Great Satan, by the book, the Koran.

Carry the battle to them. Dont let them bring it to you.Put them on the defensive and dont ever apologize for anything Harry S. Truman

Danger-if you meet it promptly and without flinching -you will reduce the danger by half-never run away from anything, never. Winston Churchill Sameer This is for the BS you posted here, tell it to our POW's who were slaughtered by the wonderful, mercyful Islamic jihod terrorist.......

By the skillful and substained use of properganda one can make people see even heaven as hell, or an extremely wreched life as paradise. Adolf Hitler

For Eagle who are Infidels. Know thy self, know thy enemy.A thousand battles, a thousand victories Sun Tzu

PS SAMEER I read the koran in english, I am no expert but I dont think I would be allowed to practice my religion in peace in your world, as you are allowed to practice yours in ours...sooo SAMEER...Might the Infidel not be your brother?. Your rights to practice your beliefs stops right where my rights to live in liberty, freedom & peace without fear, in my country of birth...If this is not possible for you my friend you will have a lifelong problem living in America, and that is your problem,..not mine.

16 Posted On: July 7, 2007 at 11:50 PM By: George Samek
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To: Longhunter
I don't know where i was when Sameer popped up but i'm sure sorry i missed it.

By the way Sameer ...Our buddy Joe is helping to rid the Earth of your so called peace loving brothers half way around the Globe..

Have a bad day reading your Koran.

17 Posted On: July 8, 2007 at 12:03 AM By: MikeBSuffolk
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To: Longhunter
Oh , I almost forgot ...Sameer i know you are really Sam ...so don't be thinking you pulled one on us ...you really are a dumbass!!
18 Posted On: July 8, 2007 at 12:06 AM By: MikeBSuffolk
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To: Longhunter
Just so everyone will know, Sameer does not live here in the States. His IP address shows he is somewhere in Asia. Sameer is engaging in a form of jihad. The founder of his religion, Mohammed said, "War is deceit." Sameer's post is just jihad by the pen or Islamic disinformation.
19 Posted On: July 8, 2007 at 8:37 AM By: Longhunter
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To: Longhunter
Good one Longhunter I guess it is a good thing we pulled the bullshit flag out on him
20 Posted On: July 8, 2007 at 11:26 AM By: joe
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To: Longhunter
Longhunter....Thanks for the headsup....It wasn't 'ol Sammie after all. Word is spreading fast about GOE and what we stand for.

In case you're reading this Sameer, you don't want to come into the U.S.of A pulling your Jihad bullshit....You fail to understand that we possess enough individual firepower to blow your ass all the way back to the 7th century...We won't be politically correct when it comes to destroying you and all that believe as you do if you step on our soil..

You want to see all those Virgins?? There are millions of ex-Military, Mountain Men, and Bonafied Rednecks just itching to grant your wish...Bring it on you piece of shit!!

EAGLES UUUP!!!

21 Posted On: July 8, 2007 at 12:17 PM By: MikeBSuffolk
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To: Longhunter
sameer allauh akbar means (KISS MY ASS).There will be a day when the push of a few buttons will wipe the islamic jihad from the face of the earth,.It's called ARRMAGGADON.
22 Posted On: July 12, 2007 at 11:03 AM By: larrymddg
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