Advice And Warning From A Seattle Police Officer
Posted On: March 7, 2007 at 11:46 PM By: Redhead Infidel
No one has the Constitutional right to desecrate a monument. (read below)

black bloc.jpg Black Bloc at April 12, 2003 anti-war demonstration in Washington DC

THEY COME PREPARED TO DO BATTLE and they are well-organized.Seriously, it's not just bandanas over the faces, they have BMX or hockey pads and protection on under their clothes, they bring improvised weapons like D-Cell batteries in socks, flammable liquids in unmarked water bottles, etc.; stuff that can be quickly assembled or disassembled into innocent components carried by multiple persons.

If their target is the Memorial, they will likely create a diversion to get the police away from the Memorial. If they want the Gathering of Eagles folks away, they will create a physical confrontation with them in one area, hoping to draw the rest over and then they'll hit the unprotected area. If you're protecting an area, stay at that area. When your adrenaline gets going, you'll want to go help, DON'T DO IT. The Eagles need to have people free from protection assignments to respond to these diversions so the Memorial is not left unprotected.

They use cell phones, hand radios, police scanners to keep their people informed. They will have folks on bikes or skates so they can move quickly from one spot to another (unprotected) spot.

Oh and most important: As tempting as it will be, do not let the black block folks draw you into any violence. Philosophically, you don't need to lower yourself to their level. Practically of course you can defend yourself, but be forewarned that the black blockers will turn that around on you too.

They will have people whose only job is to get photos and video. Any pics or videos of you defending yourself will never see the light of day. Any pic or video that can be construed as you initiating violence or "over" defending yourself will be on the media and attached to a criminal complaint, a lawsuit, etc.

Because of this it is important for the Eagles folks to have assigned pic and video people too. The black blockers will injure themselves and blame it on you. They will start s--t with you and only film you responding. They have lots of free time to edit their videos and pics, then distribute them to anyone who will look.

The DC cops, Capitol Police, and Parks Police already know all this from experience.

I'm on the other side of the country and can't be there. Please pass this info on to the Gathering of Eagles folks. The more prepared they are, the less chance of success from anarchists. It's important they don't succeed because if they do it just emboldens them to stoop even lower for their next "action."


Posted on March 7, 2007 at 11:46 PM by Redhead Infidel  

To: Redhead Infidel
Seattle Police Officer,

Thank you for the advice. It's all sound, smart, common sense that we need to heed.

Thanks for posting and be safe brother,

V5 (a "blue" brother)

1 Posted On: March 8, 2007 at 9:50 AM By: V5
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To: Redhead Infidel
I have been thinking about this for a while and want to share some thoughts with all. First-Most of us are military trained,that means to me that WE ARE THE MASTERS OF CHAOS. If we show disapline and demeanor THEY will look like the clowns. Second- Should we think of forming ranks for those activly protecting the wall? Organize color guards from those who bring flags to signify rally points? Should people who march in bands bring their instruments to drown out the stupid taunts? In my mind the more "Different" to their behavior we are the better! Comments?
2 Posted On: March 8, 2007 at 10:11 AM By: Howard Kestenberg
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To: Redhead Infidel
We, the brotherhood of Nam vets, has faced people wearing black before. We adapted, improvised, and over came them before, and we WILL do so on the 17th. The differance this time is these are nothing more than street punks, regardless of how well they may be organized, NOT AK carrying jungle fighters. I'm sure they think they can get the upper hand on us combat hardend veterans. What they fail to understand is WE have walked through the valley of death and come out on the other side. We are NOT frightened by a buch of masked street punks.

Guns Up Eagles Up Airborne

Rev Hawk Scout/Sniper Nam 68-69

3 Posted On: March 8, 2007 at 12:48 PM By: Smiling Hawk
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To: Redhead Infidel
Remember to use your head, NOT your heart. I will be there with my camera as well!!

Stand Tall

Mark

4 Posted On: March 8, 2007 at 3:03 PM By: rbnsrcn
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To: Redhead Infidel
I'm a former Marine, I'm also a woman who works in Washington, DC. I'll be there! Up front with all my fellow former Marines. I'm going for all the female veterans who can't make it.
5 Posted On: March 8, 2007 at 3:28 PM By: < Former Member >
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To: Redhead Infidel
In the event of a physical confrontation at a Memorial, we vets must remember to STAY WHERE WE ARE STATIONED, as leaving your area could give a protestor/protestors an opportunity to vandalize/deface the Memorial, which is their primary goal. Stand ready, stand tall, defend.
6 Posted On: March 9, 2007 at 12:28 AM By: < Former Member >
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To: Redhead Infidel
As much as I want to carry Old Glory, I fear I must keep both my hands free and ready to grab my camera if needed. I have my 3rd Infantry Division patch sewn onto my hat and my EIB pinned there as well. My plan is to stand whever I'm assigned and just cross my arms.

If they taunt us...remain silent and unmoving. Though that will irritate them to no end they will eventually tire and move on because we aren't giving them what they want.

7 Posted On: March 9, 2007 at 4:43 AM By: Robert
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To: Redhead Infidel
Any discussion concerning the ? what if they spit on me?

Also I promise to be clean cut hopefully in 100 virgin wool pendellton (sp?) sport jacket, proper shirt, pants, low quarters. I promise no white sox.

8 Posted On: March 9, 2007 at 8:23 AM By: Lowell
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To: Redhead Infidel
Lowell, If its spit,our clothing will protect us. Remember our Soldiers overseas are dealing with alot more deadly projectiles than spit. Hold up your Flag proudly because, THAT is what they are really spitting on.

NOT ON MY WATCH !

9 Posted On: March 9, 2007 at 11:16 AM By: Howard Kestenberg
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To: Redhead Infidel
If it's spit, it's assault folks. If you are spit upon, do your best to get the police involved. Prosecute the little turds.
10 Posted On: March 9, 2007 at 4:11 PM By: < Former Member >
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To: Redhead Infidel
Everyone needs to grab a brown paper bag and breathe into it. Having been to all the anti-war demonstrations here, my informed opinion is that the veterans counter-protesting at the Wall will not be met by a wall of spit. There will be a few, for sure. That's why I will in the middle of the protesting crowd with a videocam to capture it.

What vandalism and violence which will occur will happen at the hands of the "black bloc" anarchists. Probably two or three hundred of them will show up in black wearing masks. They're the ones who painted the Capitol steps last demonstration and smashed the window of a recruiting station. They hide in the march and then strike out vulnerable targets or leave the march entirely to hit targets off the route. It's impossible to predict where they'll go because even they don't know, making their minds up as they go.

Here's the Wikipedia entry for black bloc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black bloc

Here is a blog by one of the black bloc anarchists who smashed the window of a recruiting center during the last "peace" march on Jan 27 in Washington, DC. He describes the day and helpfully posts his own photo:

http://thelastpuritan.gnn.tv/

11 Posted On: March 9, 2007 at 7:58 PM By: Tantor
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